tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4841633648354600027.post4645969803493967471..comments2024-03-29T11:30:56.737+11:00Comments on Vintage Aeroplane Writer: UK Airshow SafetyVintage Aero Writerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16563126840290182376noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4841633648354600027.post-51104399289204789632015-08-28T07:34:03.873+10:002015-08-28T07:34:03.873+10:00Thanks for putting some perspective to what is and...Thanks for putting some perspective to what is and has been a tragedy and my thoughts have been with everyone involved especially with the families who have lost loved ones. I have been attending airshows for 30 years and feel safer than ever when attending. I would imagine that most views on this blog are from aviation enthusiasts like myself who are all anxious about the outcome of this accident not to mention the sad loss of a pilot and and another vintage aircraft at carfest recently.. Maybe it is time to have another look at the airshow scene and make as sure as possible that this can not happen again. We do not need knee jerk reactions, just the time for the right people to make the right decisions for everybody. Something I would like to see is more input from aviation enthusiasts , maybe some sort of committee that the regulators / organisers can consult with to make sure everyone is on the same page. Does anybody know if such a thing exists? I believe improvements can always be made to safety at any large event so let's hope at least something can be learned from this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4841633648354600027.post-23159524527653744562015-08-25T21:23:18.936+10:002015-08-25T21:23:18.936+10:00The Telegraph have just published the piece they ...The Telegraph have just published the piece they commissioned from me on the context of the tragic Shoreham airshow accident. <br /><br />Many people have asked that the mainstream media take note of the points that were made in my blog post, and credit to The Telegraph for doing so.<br /><br />http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/aviation/11822440/Shoreham-air-crash-how-safe-are-British-air-shows.htmlVintage Aero Writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16563126840290182376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4841633648354600027.post-46155123765944302812015-08-25T17:07:08.225+10:002015-08-25T17:07:08.225+10:00Thanks to those posting. Please note that I will N...Thanks to those posting. Please note that I will NOT publish posts speculating about the causes of the accident, however well meaning. That's not within this post's scope, and will be solved by the AAIB. Glosterbloke, thanks. I'd point out first that the Sun are exploiting the survivors and victims families by their 'interviews' (Sun quotes are heavily re-written and created by leading questions) hardly the impression of standing with them that they'd like us to believe. I feel for their grief, but I know, as they would not, how improbable it was. It is a tragedy, but also an exceptional (rare) accident and we will find that existing rules and process were breached in some ways, because the existing safeguards are adequate. As to the rest of the Sun's 'facts', as usual, they aren't. That's why we're here.Vintage Aero Writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16563126840290182376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4841633648354600027.post-49540193583312722022015-08-25T17:02:25.697+10:002015-08-25T17:02:25.697+10:00This comment has been removed by the author.Vintage Aero Writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16563126840290182376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4841633648354600027.post-30549239563089593632015-08-25T16:18:22.600+10:002015-08-25T16:18:22.600+10:00Just seen the front page of todays Sun "newsp...Just seen the front page of todays Sun "newspaper". Words actually fail me.......glosterblokenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4841633648354600027.post-53530729005578838592015-08-25T04:50:00.510+10:002015-08-25T04:50:00.510+10:00Bravo you for an objective, well considered and se...Bravo you for an objective, well considered and sensitively put piece of writing. Refreshing...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17191090501374792438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4841633648354600027.post-24237403832242726202015-08-24T20:43:38.275+10:002015-08-24T20:43:38.275+10:00very well written. I have lived near this airport ...very well written. I have lived near this airport all my life, so many people are quick to criticize airport safety, I know for a fact many areas are closed to the public to stop this sort of thing happening but people still insist on getting a good free viewing spot. whilst this was a very tragic accident that many innocent people have sadly lost their lives, it was an accident, not done on purpose! My heart goes out to all the victims and their family's, it wasn't a pleasant thing to see but, my heart also goes out to the pilot, by some miracle he survived, but don't people think he will be devastated to learn what happened. Do people have no compassion, he was no coward and didn't eject/bail it could have been worse! So many people are criticizing the use of vintage aircraft, but these are our history/heritage and put on an exceptional display year after year for the publics benefit, sadly people forget new planes also crash and take lives, as do other forms of transport but people aren't banning those! It would be very sad if Shoreham no longer held these events. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4841633648354600027.post-14511609257377993612015-08-24T20:12:01.552+10:002015-08-24T20:12:01.552+10:00Well written article, and it says it all. We the ...Well written article, and it says it all. We the general public have no knowledge of exactly what went wrong, and can only await expert conclusions. Close the airshow down? Why? How many major motor ways run right next to our major air ports? M23, M25, M11. M6...all of them with vast amounts of traffic on them, and also major towns within a mile or so of most major air ports. Are we also going to stop all flying from these air ports? let us get real; accidents happen, it is a fact of life.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08925976186736256801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4841633648354600027.post-19370381245576140092015-08-24T17:17:28.769+10:002015-08-24T17:17:28.769+10:00As with all kinds of balance, there is no guarante...As with all kinds of balance, there is no guarantee of success in anything - but this is as clear an outline of the difficulties involved here and elsewhere as one is likely ever to see - thanks James, and keep it going, in memory of Biggin on the Bump.Ross Iightlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11263953001398142653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4841633648354600027.post-30383837994113602132015-08-24T13:05:24.966+10:002015-08-24T13:05:24.966+10:00Thank you for the comments. Please note this blog ...Thank you for the comments. Please note this blog has to be moderated, and I may not get to release comments immediately. <br /><br />Comments speculating on the details of the accident, or asking questions about it won't be published, as this is purely about airshow safety. Any questions and speculation will be answered as far as possible by the AAIB report, prior discussion is speculation.<br /><br />Thanks too for typo correction, these comments have not been published, but the corrections have been made and are appreciated.Vintage Aero Writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16563126840290182376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4841633648354600027.post-16056009510746055492015-08-24T05:39:55.960+10:002015-08-24T05:39:55.960+10:00As you say, causes not known. Height of manoeuvres...As you say, causes not known. Height of manoeuvres could be the subject of any report. We also cannot tell if any medical factors had a part. Meanwhile, let us remember that a very different aircraft crashed, with less loss of life, a few miles, about the same time: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-34026444Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4841633648354600027.post-24827836612410660712015-08-24T02:18:22.641+10:002015-08-24T02:18:22.641+10:00A fine nuanced article. Thank you. I do enjoy airs...A fine nuanced article. Thank you. I do enjoy airshows here in the US. Ours tend to be on military bases, but even with all of that open space we can never assure spectator safety 100%. There are risks inherent in any large spectator event and it sounds as though the relevant authorities in the UK have this meticulously covered.Tony Verow, MDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01676139986470243493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4841633648354600027.post-87914248058473503352015-08-24T02:05:51.593+10:002015-08-24T02:05:51.593+10:00Well done James. A sensible article to balance th...Well done James. A sensible article to balance the hysterical media frenzy of the last 24 hours. Unfortunately I fear it will not be read and absorbed by those morons of press and television reporting. We all offer our thoughts and prayers to those family and friends directly involved along with the hope that the pilot will recover from his injuries.<br />I have one comment as far as civilian display pilots are concerned. After an evaluation by a highly experienced DAE appointed by the CAA they are free to design and perform any display sequence within the limitations imposed in their authorisation along with those of the aircraft they are flying. They are not restricted to the sequence flown in front of their evaluator. All such pilots are mentored by their peers as they gain experience and all major displays have a Flying Control Committee who monitor standards of safety. The FCC can terminate any display if the rules are infringed and the Display Authorisation can be suspended or revoked by the CAA.<br />Again my thanks for writing such an informative article.Skybolthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13803250658270429908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4841633648354600027.post-11640437708519948702015-08-24T00:51:03.041+10:002015-08-24T00:51:03.041+10:00Thank you, for providing some clarity in the face ...Thank you, for providing some clarity in the face of tragedy & hysteria. I just wish that as many people would read this as have read or heard the misleading speculation in the media SuziHarrierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12673649699156303472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4841633648354600027.post-79307537553977088532015-08-24T00:40:04.149+10:002015-08-24T00:40:04.149+10:00Thank you everyone. A sad, and tragic day, but we ...Thank you everyone. A sad, and tragic day, but we need to keep grounded too.Vintage Aero Writerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16563126840290182376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4841633648354600027.post-64508484382975798292015-08-24T00:32:42.467+10:002015-08-24T00:32:42.467+10:00Well said, James! I'm posting the link on The ...Well said, James! I'm posting the link on The Aviation Historian's FB page.Mick Oakeyhttp://www.theaviationhistorian.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4841633648354600027.post-53860694427361329752015-08-24T00:16:30.320+10:002015-08-24T00:16:30.320+10:00Well written and very informative article, thank y...Well written and very informative article, thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4841633648354600027.post-51885177916472004892015-08-24T00:15:47.427+10:002015-08-24T00:15:47.427+10:00Thank you so much for a well written, balanced and...Thank you so much for a well written, balanced and knowledgeable piece. If only the mainstream media worked to the same standard.Paul Stothardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4841633648354600027.post-84487825559327866282015-08-23T23:45:33.143+10:002015-08-23T23:45:33.143+10:00Good article, thanks. Unfortunately there will be ...Good article, thanks. Unfortunately there will be the clamour of the knee-jerk reactions to want airshows banned. Lets hope sense prevails, and I think it will.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com